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Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Maren Hachmann
Just in case anyone is worrying, this is a quote from the FAQ they link to:

"What about public projects?

We're still committed to open-source software, so all paid features are
also available to all public projects on GitLab.com."

Maren

Gitlab message:

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account
Datum: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 16:41:49 +0000
Von: GitLab Team <[hidden email]>

... (removed tracking links)

We đź’ś  free and are committed to always offering a free plan with
unlimited private repos, unlimited contributors, and access to features
that modern developers need on GitLab.com. To ensure we can uphold this
commitment, we’ve introduced exclusive paid features
to our Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans. With this change, we can continue
to support a great free version of GitLab.com while offering additional
enterprise features to teams with more specialized needs.

Since its launch, GitLab.com has grown to over two million projects!
We’re excited about this growth and, as an early adopter, you have been
a key part of our success. For that, we want to thank you!

*We’ve upgraded your existing Free plan account and groups on GitLab.com
to the Early Adopter Plan. You will continue to have access to the
Silver plan features
,
with the exception of additional CI minutes and improved support, free
for 12 months.

*Over the coming months, we will continue to add new
features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will
not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.


...

Best,

The GitLab Team



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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Eduard Braun

I'm a bit worried what to make of

Over the coming months, we will continue to add new features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.

Will those only be project-based features (which would still be available according to Maren's quote)?
Or will this also mean my personal account might be lacking features in future unless I choose to pay?

Overall I'm quite disappointed at this point... We chose GitLab over GitHub because they were supposed to be free, non-proprietary and open-source oriented. Now more and more features become subscription only and seem to disappear behind a paywall. The few ideological advantages begin to fade while the functionality is still lacking compared to GitHub. :-(

Regards,
Eduard


Am 01.09.2017 um 19:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
Just in case anyone is worrying, this is a quote from the FAQ they link to:

"What about public projects?

We're still committed to open-source software, so all paid features are
also available to all public projects on GitLab.com."

Maren

Gitlab message:

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: 	Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account
Datum: 	Fri, 1 Sep 2017 16:41:49 +0000
Von: 	GitLab Team [hidden email]

... (removed tracking links)

We đź’ś  free and are committed to always offering a free plan with
unlimited private repos, unlimited contributors, and access to features
that modern developers need on GitLab.com. To ensure we can uphold this
commitment, we’ve introduced exclusive paid features
to our Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans. With this change, we can continue
to support a great free version of GitLab.com while offering additional
enterprise features to teams with more specialized needs.

Since its launch, GitLab.com has grown to over two million projects!
We’re excited about this growth and, as an early adopter, you have been
a key part of our success. For that, we want to thank you!

*We’ve upgraded your existing Free plan account and groups on GitLab.com
to the Early Adopter Plan. You will continue to have access to the
Silver plan features
,
with the exception of additional CI minutes and improved support, free
for 12 months.

*Over the coming months, we will continue to add new
features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will
not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.


...

Best,

The GitLab Team



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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Felipe Sanches-2
From the software freedom perspective, I think nothing changed: The server-side code is available under a free license for anyone who wishes to self-host and possibly even improve in a fork.

GitHub still is a non-free web-platform around git, which is much worse than GitLab in terms of software freedom.

2017-09-01 16:49 GMT-03:00 Eduard Braun <[hidden email]>:

I'm a bit worried what to make of

Over the coming months, we will continue to add new features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.

Will those only be project-based features (which would still be available according to Maren's quote)?
Or will this also mean my personal account might be lacking features in future unless I choose to pay?

Overall I'm quite disappointed at this point... We chose GitLab over GitHub because they were supposed to be free, non-proprietary and open-source oriented. Now more and more features become subscription only and seem to disappear behind a paywall. The few ideological advantages begin to fade while the functionality is still lacking compared to GitHub. :-(

Regards,
Eduard


Am 01.09.2017 um 19:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
Just in case anyone is worrying, this is a quote from the FAQ they link to:

"What about public projects?

We're still committed to open-source software, so all paid features are
also available to all public projects on GitLab.com."

Maren

Gitlab message:

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: 	Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account
Datum: 	Fri, 1 Sep 2017 16:41:49 +0000
Von: 	GitLab Team [hidden email]

... (removed tracking links)

We đź’ś  free and are committed to always offering a free plan with
unlimited private repos, unlimited contributors, and access to features
that modern developers need on GitLab.com. To ensure we can uphold this
commitment, we’ve introduced exclusive paid features
to our Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans. With this change, we can continue
to support a great free version of GitLab.com while offering additional
enterprise features to teams with more specialized needs.

Since its launch, GitLab.com has grown to over two million projects!
We’re excited about this growth and, as an early adopter, you have been
a key part of our success. For that, we want to thank you!

*We’ve upgraded your existing Free plan account and groups on GitLab.com
to the Early Adopter Plan. You will continue to have access to the
Silver plan features
,
with the exception of additional CI minutes and improved support, free
for 12 months.

*Over the coming months, we will continue to add new
features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will
not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.


...

Best,

The GitLab Team



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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Eduard Braun
Am 01.09.2017 um 22:20 schrieb Felipe Sanches:
From the software freedom perspective, I think nothing changed: The server-side code is available under a free license for anyone who wishes to self-host and possibly even improve in a fork.

You're mistaken: The source code is available, but you're not allowed to use it without a valid subscription [1]! Only the GitLab Community Edition (CE) is freely usable without a license, the Enterprise Edition (EE) always requires a subscription.

To be honest I find the licensing situation more than confusing (even if the GitLab team continuously claims to be invested in Open Source) and I'm not too fond of it.

[1] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ee/blob/master/LICENSE


GitHub still is a non-free web-platform around git, which is much worse than GitLab in terms of software freedom.

2017-09-01 16:49 GMT-03:00 Eduard Braun <[hidden email]>:

I'm a bit worried what to make of

Over the coming months, we will continue to add new features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.

Will those only be project-based features (which would still be available according to Maren's quote)?
Or will this also mean my personal account might be lacking features in future unless I choose to pay?

Overall I'm quite disappointed at this point... We chose GitLab over GitHub because they were supposed to be free, non-proprietary and open-source oriented. Now more and more features become subscription only and seem to disappear behind a paywall. The few ideological advantages begin to fade while the functionality is still lacking compared to GitHub. :-(

Regards,
Eduard


Am 01.09.2017 um 19:07 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
Just in case anyone is worrying, this is a quote from the FAQ they link to:

"What about public projects?

We're still committed to open-source software, so all paid features are
also available to all public projects on GitLab.com."

Maren

Gitlab message:

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: 	Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account
Datum: 	Fri, 1 Sep 2017 16:41:49 +0000
Von: 	GitLab Team [hidden email]

... (removed tracking links)

We đź’ś  free and are committed to always offering a free plan with
unlimited private repos, unlimited contributors, and access to features
that modern developers need on GitLab.com. To ensure we can uphold this
commitment, we’ve introduced exclusive paid features
to our Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans. With this change, we can continue
to support a great free version of GitLab.com while offering additional
enterprise features to teams with more specialized needs.

Since its launch, GitLab.com has grown to over two million projects!
We’re excited about this growth and, as an early adopter, you have been
a key part of our success. For that, we want to thank you!

*We’ve upgraded your existing Free plan account and groups on GitLab.com
to the Early Adopter Plan. You will continue to have access to the
Silver plan features
,
with the exception of additional CI minutes and improved support, free
for 12 months.

*Over the coming months, we will continue to add new
features to our paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will
not be available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.


...

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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Marc Jeanmougin
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On 09/01/2017 09:49 PM, Eduard Braun wrote:
> I'm a bit worried what to make of
>
>     Over the coming months, we will continue to add new features to our
>     paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will not be
>     available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.
>

[…] IIUC, all the paid stuff apply only to private projects: all public
projects have all features and will have all features, for free.

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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Robert Sterbal
I am also concerned, their communication isn't very good.

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Marc Jeanmougin <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On 09/01/2017 09:49 PM, Eduard Braun wrote:
>> I'm a bit worried what to make of
>>
>>    Over the coming months, we will continue to add new features to our
>>    paid Bronze, Silver, and Gold plans—these features will not be
>>    available on the Early Adopter or Free plans.
>>
>
> […] IIUC, all the paid stuff apply only to private projects: all public
> projects have all features and will have all features, for free.
>
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Re: Fwd: Important Changes to your GitLab.com Account

Martin Owens-2
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You're mistaken: The source code is available, but you're not allowed to use it without a valid subscription [1]! Only the GitLab Community Edition (CE) is freely usable without a license, the Enterprise Edition (EE) always requires a subscription.

To be honest I find the licensing situation more than confusing (even if the GitLab team continuously claims to be invested in Open Source) and I'm not too fond of it.

[1] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ee/blob/master/LICENSE

What is interesting is how EE only features get recreated by the community and have been bumped back into mainline gitlab as they blast past the internal proprietary code that is the EE. So long as the CE has a healthy developer community, there is always going to be a strong Libre Office or NextCloud like fork potential. GitLab are a bit naive about what this sort of pressure does in an open source context. So it'll be interesting to see the blow back. Either they'll soften up or they'll be replaced by a fork and they will (they always do) throw a tantrum and make their platform fully closed.

Our options as a project is a move to gnome's gitlab instance. Which wouldn't be "the best thing ever"(tm) but would move us one baby step closer to being on a real open platform. But we shouldn't do that right now, as a project we should feel some of the pressure from GitLab and give a good account of ourselves to the media when the times comes to tell them how disappointed we are.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

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