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[Alexandre Prokoudine]

Hi,

Some people have grown to rely on our daily SVN snapshots and win32
builds. Do we have a plan to provide them now that we have moved to
bzr?

Alexandre

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[Chris Morgan-10]

I can provide Win32 builds on demand next year (here in Kolkata, India I can't really upload that much; next year I'll be back in Melbourne, Australia, and able to upload builds once more).

I can't really automate the process though, and I'm not going to build and upload them manually consistently every few days... they'll continue to need to be requested for me to build them.

I'm not sure how automatic ishmal's SVN snapshot system was.  I don't know anything about it.


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[Nicolas Dufour-5]

>De : Chris Morgan <[hidden email]>
>I can provide Win32 builds on demand next year (here in Kolkata, India I can't
> really upload that much; next year I'll be back in Melbourne, Australia, and able
> to upload builds once more).

This is not my main OS, but I also compile Inkscape on Vista (for testing purposes)  regularly.
Thus I can upload (with no bandwidth restriction) a zipped snapshot, at least weekly.

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    To either or both of you, that would be very much appreciated!

Thank you,
Alvin Penner
(Windows XP)

[Nicolas Dufour-5]

> De : Alexandre Prokoudine <[hidden email]>

> Some people have grown to rely on our daily SVN snapshots and win32
> builds. Do we have a plan to provide them now that we have moved to
> bzr?

At least Chris and I can zip and upload a win32 snapshot regularly. Now the question is where?

Sourceforge has a snapshot folder, but I have no right to upload.
The only site I can use to upload is Launchpad (https://edge.launchpad.net/inkscape/+download), but there's no specific place for snapshots.

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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 23:49, Nicolas Dufour <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Sourceforge has a snapshot folder, but I have no right to upload.
> The only site I can use to upload is Launchpad (https://edge.launchpad.net/inkscape/+download), but there's no specific place for snapshots.
>
> Any idea/preference?

Snapshots used to be on:
http://inkscape.modevia.com/
The person in charge was Aaron Spike <[hidden email]>

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[Nicolas Dufour-5]

> De : JiHO <[hidden email]>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 23:49, Nicolas Dufour wrote:
> > Sourceforge has a snapshot folder, but I have no right to upload.
> > The only site I can use to upload is Launchpad
> (https://edge.launchpad.net/inkscape/+download), but there's no specific place
> for snapshots.
> >
> > Any idea/preference?
>
> Snapshots used to be on:
> http://inkscape.modevia.com/
> The person in charge was Aaron Spike

Yes, I forgot this one. It's last update occurred in August 2009.
Since the devlibs are also hosted there and users are used to it, it's probably the best place.

Aaron, do you (or Ishmal) plan to upload win32 zipped snapshots again? If not, would you be willing to grant Chris Morgan and I the appropriate access rights so that we can upload to modevia?

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I upload mine to http://inkscape.chrismorgan.info/win32-builds/.  Also I use 7-Zip to compress the non-installer one, with LZMA\Ultra compression (much better than Zip or any other format), and produce builds like this (where 8899 is of course the revision number; we do actually get sane revision numbers with Bazaar, so that's a benefit of it over Git or, I think, Mercurial, which use random hex revision numbers):
inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899.7z: all files except gdb.exe, inkscape.dbg, inkview.dbg
inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899-debug.7z: gdb.exe, inkscape.dbg and inkview.dbg
Inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899.exe: compile packaging/win32/inkscape.nsi, but wait for a bit... I'm almost ready to commit some more work on the installer which will mean you don't need to change PRODUCT_VERSION in inkscape.nsi to change the version number.

I also just changed the default target for btool from dist-inkscape to dist-all, following the discussion around 0.47 release as to whether inkview should be included (I still think it should be a separate package, but the decision was made to keep it in so I've made it the default).

The mentions of modevia also remind me, ishmal or Aaron, could we please have MSVCR80.dll in devlibs, as msgfmt needs it (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/394096)


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[Nicolas Dufour-5]

>De : Chris Morgan <[hidden email]>
>I upload mine to http://inkscape.chrismorgan.info/win32-builds/.

Thus we have 4 sites where we can upload inkscape files. It's a bit too much IMHO, and we should decide which one to use. I'm not against uploading to your site, but I think we should try to keep on using modevia if possible, because it already provides all the necessary libs, Aaron and Ishmal gave lots of their time to set it up (I'm almost sure it is partially automated, but now broken due to our move to bzr) and users are used to it. If Aaron and Ishmal decide to give up modevia, then let's move the files somewhere else.

> Also I use 7-Zip to compress the non-installer one,

I agree. 7-Zip is far more efficient.

>inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899.7z: all files except gdb.exe, inkscape.dbg, inkview.dbg
>inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899-debug.7z: gdb.exe, inkscape.dbg and inkview.dbg
>Inkscape-0.47+devel-r8899.exe: compile packaging/win32/inkscape.nsi,

Do we really need all these files? Since it is for debugging purpose, I'd say the debug.7z is ok. But I'm not sure for the others. I find it easy to just unzip the file and run inkscape from a separate folder. OTOH, it's nice to test the installer from time to time.

>The mentions of modevia also remind me, ishmal or Aaron, could we please have MSVCR80.dll in devlibs, as msgfmt needs it (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/394096)

Yes, and some other devlibs also need an update.

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[Aaron Spike-2]

Nicolas Dufour wrote:

>> De : Chris Morgan <[hidden email]> I upload mine to
>> http://inkscape.chrismorgan.info/win32-builds/.
>
> Thus we have 4 sites where we can upload inkscape files. It's a bit
> too much IMHO, and we should decide which one to use. I'm not against
> uploading to your site, but I think we should try to keep on using
> modevia if possible, because it already provides all the necessary
> libs, Aaron and Ishmal gave lots of their time to set it up (I'm
> almost sure it is partially automated, but now broken due to our move
> to bzr) and users are used to it. If Aaron and Ishmal decide to give
> up modevia, then let's move the files somewhere else.

The good folks at Modevia volunteered to donate bandwidth and space to
the Inkscape project. So we took them up on their offer. We use A LOT of
bandwidth and space hosting these files. I don't think Bob or I have
much time invested in the hosting arraignments. The time comes in making
the builds and archives (which I haven't been doing for a long time). I
see nothing wrong with branching out to other hosts as long as they can
bear the traffic and provide reliable service.

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On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:16 -0600, Aaron Spike wrote:

> Nicolas Dufour wrote:
> >> De : Chris Morgan <[hidden email]> I upload mine to
> >> http://inkscape.chrismorgan.info/win32-builds/.
> >
> > Thus we have 4 sites where we can upload inkscape files. It's a bit
> > too much IMHO, and we should decide which one to use. I'm not against
> > uploading to your site, but I think we should try to keep on using
> > modevia if possible, because it already provides all the necessary
> > libs, Aaron and Ishmal gave lots of their time to set it up (I'm
> > almost sure it is partially automated, but now broken due to our move
> > to bzr) and users are used to it. If Aaron and Ishmal decide to give
> > up modevia, then let's move the files somewhere else.
>
> The good folks at Modevia volunteered to donate bandwidth and space to
> the Inkscape project. So we took them up on their offer. We use A LOT of
> bandwidth and space hosting these files. I don't think Bob or I have
> much time invested in the hosting arraignments. The time comes in making
> the builds and archives (which I haven't been doing for a long time). I
> see nothing wrong with branching out to other hosts as long as they can
> bear the traffic and provide reliable service.

We're welcome to use Launchpad for this.  There are a few scripts out
there that will do automatic uploads to a project, we could probably
repurpose one for a daily script if someone was willing to setup the
builds.

I'm not sure about how the system setup by the Redhat folks was working,
but if someone will write the script to build the win32 nightlies on
Linux I have a box that I could run that on.

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[Nicolas Dufour-5]

Hi,



> De : Alexandre Prokoudine <[hidden email]>
> Some people have grown to rely on our daily SVN snapshots and win32
> builds. Do we have a plan to provide them now that we have moved to
> bzr?

Any news?

As I wrote a month ago, I can provide a compressed win32 snapshot regularly (compiled on Windows XP with VirtualBox). But I still don't know where to upload it.
I have no write access to SourceForge, Chris Morgan's website or Modevia, and Launchpad is not appropriate for uploading that kind of file.
Could someone give me a write access somewhere? (SourceForge?)
Even if it's temporary (I hope Ishmal will bring Modevia's snapshots back to life soon), it would help to test the new 0.48 features and fixes.

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[Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com]

Hi,

i can build snapshots für Windows from time to time.
But at first i need some help with bazaar.

I would like to use bazaar for windows (tortoisebazaar) but i don't know
how to use the program in the right way.
I have to tell bazaar my LP ID.. and i don't know how because the
commands are not working somehow.

Can anybody help me with that?

Sincerely,

uwesch


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>
> Some people have grown to rely on our daily SVN snapshots and win32
> builds. Do we have a plan to provide them now that we have moved to
> bzr?
>
> Alexandre
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2010/1/29 uwe schoeler <[hidden email]>:
> I would like to use bazaar for windows (tortoisebazaar) but i don't know
> how to use the program in the right way.
> I have to tell bazaar my LP ID.. and i don't know how because the
> commands are not working somehow.
>
> Can anybody help me with that?

It's best to configure it from the command line. You only need to do
it once, then you can use the GUI. Here are the steps.

1. Get a Launchpad account (I assume you already did this).
2. Download two programs from the PuTTY suite: pageant.exe and puttygen.exe.
3. Run puttygen.exe to generate an SSH key. Save the public key as
ssh_public_key.txt and the private key as ssh_key.ppk.
4. Go to your page in Launchpad and paste the contents of the public
key file you just generated into the box.
5. Start the command prompt (Start->Run->cmd.exe).
6. Execute those commands, using appropriate data:

bzr whoami "Your Name <[hidden email]>"
bzr launchpad-login your_launchpad_username

7. Start pageant.exe. Right click on its icon in the tray and select
"Add Key". Pick the file ssh_key.ppk from the file chooser.
8. You should now be able to use TortoiseBZR with Launchpad without problems.

Note: Step 7 needs to be repeated after every login. You can add
pageant.exe to Autorun, but you'll still need to do the "Add Key" step
manually.

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[Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com]

Thank you very much. Now i can upgrade my bazaar source. Also i had a
second ID in LP so there were no ssh key...
But now everything is okay :)

I builded a devel for windows and startet inksape after that. Now i get
an error message :(
Called:
<inkscpae.exe:2944>: Gtk-Warning **: could not find symbol
 >>object-visible<< as well as the theme >>hicolor<<. Maybe you have to
install it. You can download a copy from
http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/release


i don't understand the error message. Can you help me with that?

Thanks in advance.

UweSch


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> 2010/1/29 uwe schoeler <[hidden email]>:
>  
>> I would like to use bazaar for windows (tortoisebazaar) but i don't know
>> how to use the program in the right way.
>> I have to tell bazaar my LP ID.. and i don't know how because the
>> commands are not working somehow.
>>
>> Can anybody help me with that?
>>    
>
> It's best to configure it from the command line. You only need to do
> it once, then you can use the GUI. Here are the steps.
>
> 1. Get a Launchpad account (I assume you already did this).
> 2. Download two programs from the PuTTY suite: pageant.exe and puttygen.exe.
> 3. Run puttygen.exe to generate an SSH key. Save the public key as
> ssh_public_key.txt and the private key as ssh_key.ppk.
> 4. Go to your page in Launchpad and paste the contents of the public
> key file you just generated into the box.
> 5. Start the command prompt (Start->Run->cmd.exe).
> 6. Execute those commands, using appropriate data:
>
> bzr whoami "Your Name <[hidden email]>"
> bzr launchpad-login your_launchpad_username
>
> 7. Start pageant.exe. Right click on its icon in the tray and select
> "Add Key". Pick the file ssh_key.ppk from the file chooser.
> 8. You should now be able to use TortoiseBZR with Launchpad without problems.
>
> Note: Step 7 needs to be repeated after every login. You can add
> pageant.exe to Autorun, but you'll still need to do the "Add Key" step
> manually.
>
> Regards, Krzysztof
>  

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2010/1/30 uwe schoeler <[hidden email]>

I builded a devel for windows and startet inksape after that. Now i get
an error message :(
Called:
<inkscpae.exe:2944>: Gtk-Warning **: could not find symbol
 >>object-visible<< as well as the theme >>hicolor<<. Maybe you have to
install it. You can download a copy from
http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/release


i don't understand the error message. Can you help me with that?

Thanks in advance.

UweSch

It's not an error, it's just a minor warning.  I've submitted a patch for it, comment #4 at https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/446842, but it needs testing in Linux in particular to check whether or not it will break the hicolor theme.  Insofar as I have been able to ascertain, the object-visible bit is a red herring; I've been unable to account for its mention in the message, as it is there in icons.svg and it is used in the application (it's the open eye icon), and if you create an empty hicolor theme the whole message goes away.



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I have two questions:

1) I think I didn't generate any SSH key and I don't have any pre-procedure or softwares other then bzr installed to download new sources: I just did:
 - downloaded and installed bzr;
  - 'bzr branch lp:inkscape';
at first (only once at the very beginning; it took a while...), then
  - 'bzr pull' (actually I often use Tortoise Bazaar but sometimes the command line too);
whenever I want to update sources and then recompile; am I missing something? I hope I'm not doing something wrong... Perhaps Tortoise Bazaar did some configurations for me automatically.

2) I read on the update log that some changes have been done to build.xml for "the new devlibs repository": I'm still using the old SVN repository so what do I have to change?

Sorry if I missed something...

Thanks.
Luca

[Krzysztof Kosiński]

2010/2/1 LucaDC <[hidden email]>:

> 1) I think I didn't generate any SSH key and I don't have any pre-procedure
> or softwares other then bzr installed to download new sources: I just did:
>  - downloaded and installed bzr;
>  - 'bzr branch lp:inkscape';
> at first (only once at the very beginning; it took a while...), then
>  - 'bzr pull' (actually I often use Tortoise Bazaar but sometimes the
> command line too);
> whenever I want to update sources and then recompile; am I missing
> something? I hope I'm not doing something wrong... Perhaps Tortoise Bazaar
> did some configurations for me automatically.

This is OK, but read-only. Until you do "bzr launchpad-login", you
won't be able to push to any remote branch.

> 2) I read on the update log that some changes have been done to build.xml
> for "the new devlibs repository": I'm still using the old SVN repository so
> what do I have to change?

Delete c:\devlibs, open the command prompt, go to c:\ and say "bzr
checkout lp:inkscape-devlibs devlibs". Or right click on some folder
in Explorer, pick "Bazaar Checkout/Branch...", put lp:inkscape-devlibs
as branch source and C:\devlibs as the checkout path.

I updated the Windows build instructions on the wiki a bit to include
configuring Bazaar and using the Launchpad devlibs repository.

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Krzysztof Kosiński wrote

2010/2/1 LucaDC <[e-mail]>:
> 1) I think I didn't generate any SSH key and I don't have any pre-procedure
> or softwares other then bzr installed to download new sources: I just did:
>  - downloaded and installed bzr;
>  - 'bzr branch lp:inkscape';
> at first (only once at the very beginning; it took a while...), then
>  - 'bzr pull' (actually I often use Tortoise Bazaar but sometimes the
> command line too);
> whenever I want to update sources and then recompile; am I missing
> something? I hope I'm not doing something wrong... Perhaps Tortoise Bazaar
> did some configurations for me automatically.

This is OK, but read-only. Until you do "bzr launchpad-login", you
won't be able to push to any remote branch.

That's fine for me (or even better so I can't damage anything) as I only need reading for updating my sources and compiling.

Krzysztof Kosiński wrote

> 2) I read on the update log that some changes have been done to build.xml
> for "the new devlibs repository": I'm still using the old SVN repository so
> what do I have to change?

Delete c:\devlibs, open the command prompt, go to c:\ and say "bzr
checkout lp:inkscape-devlibs devlibs". Or right click on some folder
in Explorer, pick "Bazaar Checkout/Branch...", put lp:inkscape-devlibs
as branch source and C:\devlibs as the checkout path.

Good. Thanks a lot.
Luca